"The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy."
(1979 United States House Select Committee on the Assassinations of President John F. Kennedy and Martin L. King Final Report)
((a.k.a. the “HSCA”))
"The commission has found no evidence that either Lee Harvey Oswald or Jack Ruby was part of any conspiracy, domestic or foreign, to assassinate President Kennedy."
(1964 United States President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy Report,)
((a.k.a. the “Warren Commission”))
C.I.A. Finance Officer JAMES WILCOTT testified that he had learned
that former U.S. Marine LEE HARVEY OSWALD had been paid
by the C.I.A. while OSWALD had been ordered stationed
and served at the Top Secret airbase in Atsugi, Japan
for the C.I.A.-run U-2 jets overflight surveillance
missions covering Communist Russia
and Communist China.
I am no longer confident that the Central Intelligence Agency
co-operated with the committee. My reasons follow:
The committee focused, among other things, on (1) Oswald, (2) in New
Orleans, (3) in the months before he went to Dallas, and, in particular,
(4) his attempt to infiltrate an anti-Castro group, the Directorio
Revolucionario Estudiantil or DRE.
These were crucial issues in the Warren Commission's investigation;
they were crucial issues in the committee's investigation. The Agency
knew it full well in 1964; the Agency knew it full well in 1976-79.
Outrageously, the Agency did not tell the Warren Commission or our
committee that it had financial and other connections with the DRE,
a group that Oswald had direct dealings with!
What contemporaneous reporting is or was in the Agency's DRE files?
We will never know, for the Agency now says that no reporting is in
the existing files. Are we to believe that its files were silent in 1964 or
during our investigation?
I don't believe it for a minute. Money was involved; it had to be
documented. Period. End of story. The files and the Agency agents
connected to the DRE should have been made available to the
commission and the committee. That the information in the files and
the agents who could have supplemented it were not made available
to the commission and the committee amounts to willful obstruction
Obviously, too, it did not identify the agent who was its contact with
the DRE at the crucial time that Oswald was in contact with it: George
During the relevant period, the committee's chief contact with the
Agency on a day-to-day basis was Scott Breckinridge. (I put aside our
point of contact with the office of chief counsel, Lyle Miller) We sent
researchers to the Agency to request and read documents. The
relationship between our young researchers, law students who came
with me from Cornell, was anything but "happy." Nevertheless, we
were getting and reviewing documents. Breckinridge, however,
suggested that he create a new point of contact person who might
"facilitate" the process of obtaining and reviewing materials. He
introduced me to Joannides, who, he said, he had arranged to bring
out of retirement to help us. He told me that he had experience in
finding documents; he thought he would be of help to us.
I was not told of Joannides' background with the DRE, a focal point of
the investigation. Had I known who he was, he would have been a
witness who would have been interrogated under oath by the staff or
by the committee. He would never have been acceptable as a point
of contact with us to retrieve documents. In fact, I have now learned,
as I note above, that Joannides was the point of contact between the
Agency and DRE during the period Oswald was in contact with DRE.
That the Agency would put a "material witness" in as a "filter" between
the committee and its quests for documents was a flat out breach of
the understanding the committee had with the Agency that it would
co-operate with the investigation.
The committee's researchers immediately complained to me that
Joannides was, in fact, not facilitating but obstructing our obtaining of
documents. I contacted Breckinridge and Joannides. Their side of the
story wrote off the complaints to the young age and attitude of the
They were certainly right about one question: the committee's
researchers did not trust the Agency. Indeed, that is precisely why
they were in their positions. We wanted to test the Agency's integrity.
I wrote off the complaints. I was wrong; the researchers were right. I
now believe the process lacked integrity precisely because of
For these reasons, I no longer believe that we were able to conduct
an appropriate investigation of the Agency and its relationship to
Oswald. Anything that the Agency told us that incriminated, in some
fashion, the Agency may well be reliable as far as it goes, but the truth
could well be that it materially understates the matter.
What the Agency did not give us none but those involved in the
Agency can know for sure. I do not believe any denial offered by the
Agency on any point. The law has long followed the rule that if a person
lies to you on one point, you may reject all of his testimony.
I now no longer believe anything the Agency told the committee any
further than I can obtain substantial corroboration for it from outside
the Agency for its veracity. We now know that the Agency withheld
from the Warren Commission the C.I.A.-Mafia plots to kill Castro. Had
the commission known of the plots, it would have followed a different
path in its investigation. The Agency unilaterally deprived the
commission of a chance to obtain the full truth, which will now never
Significantly, the Warren Commission's conclusion that the agencies
of the government co-operated with it is, in retrospect, not the truth.
We also now know that the Agency set up a process that could only
have been designed to frustrate the ability of the committee in 1976-79
to obtain any information that might adversely affect the Agency.
Many have told me that the culture of the Agency is one of
prevarication and dissimulation and that you cannot trust it or its people.
Period. End of story.
I am now in that camp.
(G. ROBERT BLAKEY, House Select Committee on Assassinations, Chief Counsel,
2003 Addendum to his 1993 “Frontline” documentary interview)
Personal Belongings of $1.25 per hour,
Family-near-destitute, Lee Harvey Oswald
Mexico City Report" (1979)
. . . . A.K.A. "The Lopez Report". . . . This report is part of the HSCA Report ---- but it’s details were held “classified” and it was not released by the C.I.A. for 14 years for The People until 1993 when it was released with several segments that were, still, heavily “blacked-out” and redacted.
It was then reviewed and released by the ARRB with less redactions in 1995, then again in 1996, then, finally, released unredacted in 2003.
The report authored by its HSCA Investigators SOTO EDWIN "Ed" JUAN LOPEZ and DANIEL HARDWAY examines in detail the alleged OSWALD's trip to Mexico City, Mexico in the Fall of 1963, less than 2 months before the assassination.
Later, when an assassination researcher interviewed LOPEZ about the "Oswald, the C.I.A., and Mexico City Report" and LOPEZ was asked, wasn’t there supposed to be this section about OSWALD and the C.I.A. included for the final HSCA Report and why was his report not included?,
LOPEZ was very surprised that it was gone, and he can then be heard on the interview tape flipping through the pages of the report.... and then LOPEZ states,
"It’s completely gone," adding,
“They [the C.I.A.] hated it ---- that section, totally. They just hated that section."
what he and others discovered about OSWALD
(Showtime cable TV mock-trial of OSWALD, 1986)
.... Their investigations details led LOPEZ to determine that OSWALD had. . . .
worked for the C.I.A. in a low-level capacity,
. . . . and . . . .
that he was deliberately impersonated by someone in Mexico City, Mexico
only weeks before 11-22-63,
. . . . and . . . .
that rogue C.I.A. agents (who hated JFK) were responsible for
setting OSWALD up as the assassination “lone-nut” “patsy.”
VIDEO of Ms. SYLVIA ODIO detailing the incident of her pre-assassination encounter with LEE HARVEY OSWALD (whom the Warren Commission tried to paint as pro-CASTRO), with his two, violently militant, anti-CASTRO cohorts, at the exact same time when the Warren Commission lone-nut-apologists theorize he was sitting in a bus going to Mexico City
Long before (and after) 11-22-63 the C.I.A. with the Mafia had been working together because of their intersecting, common motives.
This conspiring together of the U.S. government with the Mafia had been ongoing and steady from as early as, at least, World War II (possibly and probably longer), when President FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT’s government had worked together with the Mafia (in ROOSEVELT’s OPERATION UNDERWORLD “deal” with the Mafia’s main accountant MEYER LANSKY) ----while HOOVER was the F.B.I. Director---- to use Mafia and their union workers to protect the U.S. governments vital military warehouses, docks, and vital wartime allies-needed military equipment and supplies against the wartime acts and terrorisms of Nazi spies and other enemy terrorists. Among many intersecting motives leading to 11-22-63: after CASTRO had confiscated Mafia million$ and also kicked the Mafia out of Cuba (causing the Mafia to lose future million$ or billion$ from its gambling, drugs, prostitution, etc, that had been flowing ----and, allowed to flow for many, many decades). Subsequently, President KENNEDY and U.S. Attorney General ROBERT F. KENNEDY had also dramatically increased prosecutions more than 1100% against the Mafia from 1961 to 1963 in the short time since the previous administration. (the same Mafia that the KENNEDY's father, JOSEPH SR., earlier had closely collaborated with for decades profiting Million$ from importing illegal booze's, collaborated with and profiting million$ in penetrating the film industries in Hollywood, and reportedly KENNEDY SR.'s collaborations with the Mafia that helped swing the Illinois unionized voters, and the entire state, winning the presidency for JFK during the 1960 presidential election) ....Additionally, several extremely upset-at and JFK-hating, rogue-acting, longtime C.I.A. officers viewed and repeatedly stated publicly (as did C.I.A. Officer and Army General CHARLES PIERRE CABELL ----whom President KENNEDY had fired, but CHARLES CABELL refused to leave his Pentagon duties, and, who was, in fact, on 11-22-63 also the brother of Dallas Mayor EARLE CABELL) ---- that President KENNEDY was a “traitor” to America and the anti-CASTRO, C.I.A.-trained Cuban freedom fighters allies during the Bay of Pigs failed Communist Cuba liberation attempt. President KENNEDY did not trust the C.I.A., as evidenced by his stating to his closest friends after the Bay of Pigs that the C.I.A. had deliberately misled and flat-out lied to him, and he vowed that he would smash the C.I.A. into 1000 pieces and scatter the pieces to the winds. In 1962 ROBERT KENNEDY had already ordered the C.I.A. and Mafia to stop working together to stop developing their CASTRO-assassination teams, but, the C.I.A. decided ----internally, on its own---- to completely ignore RFK's orders, and against orders the C.I.A. continued working with the Mafia on its CASTRO-assassination teams until after President KENNEDY's assassination.
“It's quite thought-provoking to examine President John F. Kennedy from a contrarian point of view.
- Suppose JFK was not a great man?
- What if he was not considered to be a great president on November
- What if his reckless personal behavior caused moral men to question
- What if his numerous policy blunders caused powerful men to question
his leadership abilities and judgment?”
(CHUCK HELPPIE, 2010, “Kennedy Must Be Killed," page 296 . . . . (JFK’s reckless behaviors
were, indeed, known to many, many people inside and outside the washDC insulated bubble, but,
not made public by the then-media))
More to be Added, Soon
Lyndon Baines Johnson
Edward Aubrey Clark
Clifton Crawford Carter
Walter Wilson Jenkins
Malcolm Everett Wallace
Billie Sol Estes
Donald B. Reynolds
Robert "Bobby" Baker
Clint Murchison Sr.
Haroldson Lafayette Hunt
Sid Williams Richardson
John Bowden Connally
James Braden (a.k.a. "Jim Brading")
Richard Milhouse Nixon
Gerald Rudolph Ford (a.k.a. "Leslie King")
John Edgar Hoover
William King Harvey
William "Rip" Robertson
E. Howard Hunt
David Atlee Phillips
Gerry P. Hemming
Herminio Diaz Garcia
Rafael ("Chi Chi") Quintero
Bernardo de Torres
Luis Posada Sr.
Felipe Vidal Santiago
Lee Harvey Oswald
Clay LaVergne Shaw
During the Assassinations Records Review Board, in a 1994 letter from Bradley E. Ayers sent to the head of the board, John R. Tunheim, Ayers claimed that nine people based at the C.I.A.’s Miami JM/WAVE station, "have intimate operational knowledge of the circumstances surrounding the assassination" of John F. Kennedy.
Ayers named nine men working within the operations control of the C.I.A.'s Miami JM/WAVE station: David Sanchez Morales, Theodore Shackley, Grayston Lynch, Felix Rodriguez, Thomas Clines, Gordon Campbell, Rip Robertson, Edward Roderick and Tony Sforza as the men who had this information.
C.I.A.-document # 1035-960
(encoded “PSYCH,” meaning the C.I.A. “Psychological Warfare Operations”)
generated within the C.I.A. “Clandestine Services” division (encoded “CS”)....
In April 1967 the C.I.A. specifically created
these Clandestine Services instructions and tactics for
its agents and its many “media assets” (who then further disseminated
it publicly to be swallowed by the Warren Commission lone-nut-apologists) on how they should
(try to) counter the many and rapidly growing large majority critics of the Warren Commission lone-nut-report-canard
CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY HISTORY
C.I.A. history of its Miami, Florida “JM/WAVE” Operations Station
The C.I.A.’s “JM/WAVE” operations station was the largest and highest funded C.I.A. station in the world at the time. It concentrated mostly on implementing anti-Communist (especially focused on anti-Castro) secret operations.
C.I.A. history - OPERATION PLUTO
(a.k.a. the “Bay of Pigs” Communist Cuba Liberation attempt)
Details on a fraction of the C.I.A.’s then-secret, now-known operations
C.I.A. history - OPERATION 40
C.I.A. history - OPERATION AMOT
---- C.I.A. assassination operation against CASTRO run out of the C.I.A.'s Miami JM/WAVE station that C.I.A. Officer DAVID MORALES was involved with
C.I.A. history - OPERATION AMSANTA
---- joint operation between the C.I.A. and the F.B.I.
C.I.A. history - OPERATION AMSPELL
(later a.k.a. OPERATION DRE/AMSPELL)
---- in August 1963 members of the anti-Castro Cuba freedom fighters group "Directorio Revolucionario Estudiantil" (a.k.a. the "DRE" and the "Cuban Student Directorate") in New Orleans initiated a confrontation with LEE HARVEY OSWALD while he was handing out pro-Castro pamplets, after he had approached them claiming he was anti-Castro. After the assassination members of this C.I.A. covertly-funded group rapidly publicized information and claims about OSWALD
C.I.A. history - OPERATION AMWORLD
C.I.A. history - OPERATION ARTICHOKE
C.I.A. history - OPERATION BLUEBIRD
C.I.A. history - OPERATION CHATTER
C.I.A. history - OPERATION CHAOS
C.I.A. history - OPERATION CHERRY
---- C.I.A. covertly-funded assassination's and destabilization's operations executed during the Vietnam war that also targeted Cambodia's Prince (later King), NORODOM SIHANOUK, and his government of Cambodia
C.I.A. history - OPERATION CONDOR
C.I.A. history - OPERATION CORDS
C.I.A. history - OPERATION EXECUTIVE ACTION
C.I.A. history - OPERATION FREEDOM FIGHTERS
---- C.I.A. “how to” assassination manual
C.I.A. history - OPERATION GPFLOOR
---- possibly related to LEE HARVEY OSWALD according to
T. JEREMY GUNN, the Executive Director and General
Counsel for the Assassination Records Review Board
C.I.A. history - OPERATION HT-LINGUAL
C.I.A. history - OPERATION JMARC
C.I.A. history - OPERATION JMATE
C.I.A. history - OPERATION JUDAS
C.I.A. history - OPERATION KUBARK
C.I.A. history - OPERATION MIDNIGHT CLIMAX
C.I.A. history - OPERATION MK-DELTA
C.I.A. history - OPERATION MK-NAOMI
C.I.A. history - OPERATION MK-OFTEN
C.I.A. history - OPERATION MK-SEARCH
(formerly a.k.a. OPERATION MK-ULTRA)
C.I.A. history - OPERATION MK-ULTRA
C.I.A. history - OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD
C.I.A. history - OPERATION MONGOOSE
C.I.A. history - OPERATION NIGHTINGALE
---- C.I.A. suggestions to its contacts for them to attempt to counter the many criticisms of the Warren Commission
C.I.A. history - OPERATION NORTHWOODS
---- C.I.A. plans for C.I.A.-backed attacks to be made against Americans.... With the help of the “mass media” the attacks were to then be blamed on Cuban Communist dictator FIDEL CASTRO and additional Communists in Cuba. The C.I.A. theorized that Americans would then demand a (second) Communist Cuba liberation attempt....
(QUOTE from the OPERATION NORTHWOODS C.I.A. plan)
We could blow up a drone (unmanned) vessel anywhere in the Cuban
waters.... The US could follow up with an air/sea rescue operation covered
by US fighters to 'evacuate' remaining members of the non-existent crew.
Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national
C.I.A. history - OPERATION PAPERCLIP
C.I.A. history - OPERATION PATHFINDER
C.I.A. history - OPERATION PBFORTUNE
C.I.A. history - OPERATION PBSUCCESS
---- the infamous 1954 coup in Guatemala initiated and supported by the C.I.A. Among the documents found in the training files of Operation PBSUCCESS and declassified by the C.I.A. is a "Study of Assassination"; an assassination how-to manual in political killing that gives detailed descriptions of the strongly suggested and needed procedures, instruments, equipment, and implementation of an assassination of someone. Here is a transcript of that manual.
C.I.A. history - OPERATION PHOENIX
C.I.A. history - OPERATION QKENCHANT
C.I.A. history - OPERATION RYBAT
---- possibly related to LEE HARVEY OSWALD according to
T. JEREMY GUNN, the Executive Director and General
Counsel for the Assassination Records Review Board
C.I.A. history - OPERATION SPECIAL GROUP SGA
C.I.A. history - OPERATION SUITE 8f GROUP
C.I.A. history - OPERATION TASK FORCE W
C.I.A. history - OPERATION TILT
C.I.A. history - OPERATION UNDERWORLD
---- prior to the 1947 formation of the C.I.A.
------ Hidden deals by President FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT in which ROOSEVELT and the Mafia conspired and worked closely together before and during WWII to try to protect U.S. military equipment and Mafia-controlled military warehouses from destructions by Nazi spies and other enemy terrorists ------
C.I.A. history - OPERATION ZAPATA
(the Bay of Pigs anti-Communist, Cuba liberation attempt)
C.I.A. history - OPERATION ZR/CLIFF
C.I.A. history - OPERATION ZR/RIFLE
in charge of the many attempted CASTRO assassination conspiracy
projects organized by the C.I.A. with the Mafia . . . . HARVEY constantly
made no 'bones' about and was outspoken about his virulently hating the Kennedy’s
- who HARVEY (and many outspoken other powerful persons) believed were Socialist-Communist traitors . . . . VIDEO here
Former C.I.A. Officer PHILLIP AGEE, excerpts from his book, "C.I.A. Diary: Inside the Company"
JOHN CRAIG research study, "The Mystery of David Ferrie"
United States Senate Select Committee to Study Governmental Operations with Respect to Intelligence Agencies Activities (1976)....a.k.a. the "Church Committee"....includes reports on C.I.A. assassination plots of foreign leaders
has collapsed like a house of cards.”
. . . . and . . . .
“The fatal mistake the Warren Commission made
was not to use its own investigators, but, instead,
to rely on the C.I.A. and F.B.I. personnel, which
played directly into the hands of senior intelligence
officials who directed the cover-up."
(Senator RICHARD SCHULTZ SCHWEIKER, Co-Chairman of the United States Investigation of the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: Report on the Performance of the Intelligence Agencies (a.k.a. the "Schweiker-Hart Subcommittee"). SCHWEIKER’s statements were given on TV’s Face the Nation in July, 1976)
"The people will recognize that the C.I.A. was behaving during those years like a rogue elephant rampaging out of control . . ."
(Senator FRANK FORRESTER CHURCH III, Chairman of the “United States Select Committee To Study Governmental Operations With Respect to Intelligence Activities; Investigation of the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: Performance of the Intelligence Agencies” (a.k.a. the “Church Committee”) report and its follow-up volumes and exhibits, July 1975)
"The Committee has developed evidence which impeaches the
process by which the intelligence agencies arrived at
their own conclusions about the assassination, and by
which they provided information to the Warren Commission.
This evidence indicates that the investigation of the
assassination was deficient and that facts which might
have substantially affected the course of the
investigation were not provided the Warren Commission
or those individuals within the F.B.I. and the C.I.A.,
as well as other agencies of Government, who were
charged with investigating the assassination."
“United States Select Committee To Study Governmental Operations With Respect to
Intelligence Activities; Investigation of the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy:
Performance of the Intelligence Agencies” (a.k.a. the “Church Committee”) report and its
follow-up volumes and exhibits, and a “Church Committee“ VIDEO REPORT here
“United States Investigation of the Assassination of President John F. Kennedy: Report on the Performance of the Intelligence Agencies” (1976) (a.k.a. the "Schweiker-Hart Subcommittee")
C.I.A. letter to Warren Commission lone-nut-apologists lawyer David W. Belin, 5-30-75
United States House Judiciary Committee's Civil and Constitutional Rights Subcommittee Constitutional Rights Subcommittee (1975) (a.k.a. "Edwards Committee" that investigated the Dallas F.B.I. office Special Agent In Charge, J. Gordon Shanklin, ordering the destruction of the so-called "Hosty note" that Lee Harvey Oswald had left at the F.B.I. Dallas field office specifically for F.B.I. Special Agent James Hosty on 11-6-63)
(not yet available online)
United States Government Information and Individual Rights Subcommittee of the Government Operations Committee (1975) (a.k.a. "Abzug Committee"- examined issues of access and openness relating to Warren Commission records)
(not yet available online)
United States Select Committee on illegal Domestic Activities of Government Intelligence Agencies (1975) (a.k.a. "Pike Committee"-touched on some issues related to the assassination of President Kennedy)
(not yet available online)
of the C.I.A. were flushed out, THEN, MAYBE, the whole story of the Kennedy
assassination would be known.”
(JOSEPH ANTHONY CALIFANO, JR., Aide to President JOHNSON,
“CBS Reports Inquiry: The American Assassins” 11-26-75)
(JOHN TRAVOLTA, “Swordfish” 2001)
click the manual or here to read
10-24-08 photo....all trees heights and widths were much smaller on 11-22-63
United States Commission on C.I.A. Activities Within the United States (1975) (a.k.a. "Rockefeller Commission")
United States Senators Howard Baker and Lowell Weicker conducted their own personal investigations of the assassination (1974-76)
(results never published)
United States Senator Samuel Ervin Committee investigated the assassination of President Kennedy (1974)
(not yet available online)
the assassination were....
. . . . by the U.S. government in 1973, "coincidentally," at approximately the same times when government officials renewed interests in follow-up investigations into the assassination were dramatically increasing.
Interest by Our People has always remained high.
Over the years, consistent poll after poll steadily details that 62 % to over 90 % do not believe the reported canards of the Warren Commission-apologists lone-nut “theory.”
RONALD REAGAN, 1978, his thoughts about the JFK assassination from his 2001 audio CD, "Reagan in his Own Voice" CD 5, Track 13
In July of 1973, six Months after the death of Lyndon Baines Johnson, "The Atlantic" magazine published an article by a journalist and former Johnson speech writer named Leo Janos. "The Last Days of the President," about LBJ in retirement, was elegiac in tone and fact, save for one dissonant paragraph—in which Johnson volunteered his opinion that President John F. Kennedy's assassination had been the result of a conspiracy organized from Cuba.
"I never believed that Oswald acted alone, although I can accept that he pulled the trigger,"
he explained to Janos. Johnson thought such a conspiracy had formed in retaliation for U.S. plots to assassinate Fidel Castro; he had found after taking office that the government was running a “murder incorporated“
LBJ admitted years later that the KENNEDY administration via the C.I.A. with the Mafia....
"We were running a damn 'Murder Incorporated' in the Caribbean" (C.I.A. trained teams
to kill Communist Dictator CASTRO) and LBJ was not sure what . . . .
. . . . "might have motivated Oswald, or . . . . ahhhh........ 'others',
that . . . . ahhhh . . . . . . . . could have been involved."
(LBJ to “CBS News” anchor, WALTER CRONKITE, 1969 SHORT VIDEO here )
President FORD forced to admit the Warren Report was fictionalized, 7-2-97
President FORD, Warren Commission lone-nut-commissar, admissions
District Attorney of New Orleans Papers Regarding the Investigation of President Kennedy's Assassination and C.I.A. domestic contact agent, CLAY LaVERGNE SHAW (1969)
CLAY SHAW trial: witnesses testimonies
United States National Commission on the Causes and Prevention of Violence (1969) (initiated in response to the assassinations of President Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, and Martin L. King)
(not yet available online)
United States Clark Panel Report on President Kennedy Autopsy Photos and X-Rays (1968)
No one can say whether the time has come for an
easing of the struggle. But history and our own
conscience will judge us harsher if we do not, now,
make every effort to test our hopes by action -- and
this is the place to begin.
According to the ancient Chinese proverb, 'A journey
of a thousand miles must begin with a single step'.
My fellow Americans, let us take that first step."
(President KENNEDY, 7-26-63 radio and television address to the
American people about the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty with the
Communist Russians AUDIO here)
Phone Conversation between Acting U.S. Attorney General
RAMSEY CLARK and President LYNDON JOHNSON
Re: Autopsy Photos
Date: 1-21-67 12:00 Noon
Time: 7 mins 25 secs at the end of a 8 mins 31 secs conversation
Background: Ramsey Clark was U.S. Attorney General between 1967 and 1969 under President Lyndon Johnson, an administration that escalated the war in Vietnam, and that pursued F.B.I. investigations of civil rights activists under the Counter Intelligence Program. Now Ramsey Clark is a fierce critic of U.S. foreign policy and domestic human rights practices, and claims that "the greatest human rights violator in the world is my own government."
RC: Ah, we had three pathologists that performed the autopsy on evening of November 22nd come in. We had to bring Finck from Viet Nam. There were only 8 of us, including the three pathologists. They went into archives last night.(1) The staff worked till midnight on the autopsy photos and X-rays. They all three seemed to have a chip on their shoulder. I think they'll go along with our [ - ] that they shouldn't talk.
LBJ: They shouldn't what?
RC: They shouldn't talk to anybody. But they are quite defensive of the criticism of them. They feel their professional reputations are at stake and what not. They say, "We haven't got it tied down as an affidavit yet." I hope they have it by Monday. They'll be working on it today or tomorrow here. They may have it done before then. But, they're so technical, so reticent about finding things that they're hard to work with. They say the autopsy photos conclusively confirm their judgment as to the bullet entered the back of the skull --- and it's not perfectly conclusive as to the one in the lower neck. It's very clear to them that they, there's nothing in the autopsy photos that contradicts anything that they said. Now, we've run into one problem last night that we didn't know of. That is, there may be a photo missing. Dr. Humes, Commander and Naval doctor, testified before the Warren Commission(2) that this one photo made of the highest portion of the right lung. The other two doctors don't recall if such a photo was made. They do recall discussing the desired ability of making such a photo. But there is no such photo in these exhibits. It could be contended that that photo could show the course and direction the bullet that entered the lower part of the neck and exited the front part. We're seeing to run that down. The only other witness that would have any judgment at all would be the corpsman, naval corpsman, that took the photos. We have to talk to him. We're not too sure, until we see what the doctors conclude. That's desirable. We are left with one specific problem. Dr. Humes did testify before the Warren Commission there was such a photo [that] we don't have.
LBJ: Wasn't delivered to you.
RC: Not delivered. That's very clear. Another part that is a concern that's not tied down either --- that's Dr. Burkley's part. You remember I talked to him on November 8th down at the Ranch after I talked with you about it. Hadn't discussed it since. He gets very emotional on the subject. His eyes start watering. He says that he knew where the autopsy photos were all the time. They were in his possession. Now, this is not --- He's not entirely clear on the matter. The possession will become an issue in a significant way and it had not been until, in our judgment, till last night because of the missing photo now. I say "missing photo." There's a contradiction of whether there was this photo.
LBJ: Ah uh. Well, they weren't actually in his possession, were they?
RC: He said that they were actually in his possession. And that he received them and had them in a safe in E.O.B. (Executive Office Building) In a vault sort of thing in E.O.B. He later released them to Mrs. Lincoln. Probably hidden them. (garbled) Which I think I know, prepared by Bobby Kennedy. I think Dr. Burkley knew what he had in every instance. He knew every minute. He, ah, I tell you the real problem is when you start talking with him about it what he said is it's just outrageous that anybody would want those photos. The personal property of the dead President's family. "Horrible" when he talked about it, thinks about it. "People shouldn't do that." When you try to explain that's a real problem, why, he --- "It just won't do at all." His inventory(3) coincides with what we had. Inventory that we got ---material was delivered to us by Kennedy representative Burke Marshall(4). So that would indicate that between his letter and what we received November 1, everything is there. Or if there were another photo, on the 4th (garbled) then Mrs. Lincoln.
LBJ: Ok. I ....
RC: I don't really think he had actual possession. I think he had something, he had constructive possession part of the time. We have evidence the material was given to him before this. At the Archives longer than this. Nobody at Archives knew it was there. Mrs. Lincoln had some storage space including some security vaults because she was working over there on the President's papers and all [for the] Presidential Library. [Of] Course people had the keys, 'course things filed up. (garbled)
LBJ: (sighing) Ok. I'll talk to you later. (abruptly hanging up on Ramsey)
1A. The autopsy doctors had not seen the photos before the visit to the
Archives on January 20, 1967. Commander Humes testimony before the
Warren Commission, Vol. 11, page 372:
Commander HUMES: We exposed both black and white and color
negatives, Congressman. They were exposed in the morgue during
the examination. They were not developed. The Kodachrome negatives
when developed would be 405. They were in film carriers or cassettes,
as were the black and white. Of course they could be magnified.
Representative FORD: Have those been examined by personnel at Bethesda?
Commander HUMES: No, sir. We exposed these negatives; we turned them
over. Here I must ask the counsel again for advice to the Secret Service.
Mr. SPECTER: Yes; it was the Secret Service.
Commander HUMES. They were turned over to the Secret Service in
their cassettes unexposed, and I have not seen any of them since. This
is the photographs. The X-rays were developed in our X-ray department
on the spot that evening, because we had to see those right then as part
of our examination, but the photographs were made for the record and
for other purposes.
Representative FORD: But they had never been actually developed for
Commander HUMES: I do not know, sir.
1B. Humes, Boswell and Finck at National Archives The autopsy
physicians were requested by the Department of Justice to examine the
x-rays and photographs for the purpose of determining whether they are
consistent with the autopsy report.
2. Commander Humes testimony before the Warren Commission stating
that photographs were taken of the chest. Vol. 11, page 363:
Commander HUMES: It, therefore, was our opinion that the missile while
not penetrating physically the pleural cavity, as it passed that point
bruised either the missile itself, or the force of its passage through the
tissues, bruised both the parietal and the visceral pleura. The area of
discoloration on the apical portion of the right upper lung measured five
centimeters in greatest diameter, and was wedge shaped in configuration,
with its base toward the top of the chest and its apex down towards the
substance of the lung. Once again Kodachrome photographs were
made of this area in the interior of the President's chest.
3. Relevant dates are:
April 26, 1965: RFK gets autopsy materials transferred from USSS to
Kennedy family, with the help of Admiral Burkley, military physician
to Presidents Kennedy and Johnson. That day an inventory is made
out and signed by Burkley, Kellerman, Bouck, and others. Item # 1
on the list is a broken casket handle; item # 9 is a listing of numerous
body parts, plus autopsy documents.
October 28, 1966: Burke Marshall's Deed Of Gift Letter to GSA Knott
for transfer of the autopsy materials to the archives has an
attachment listing both the clothing and the autopsy materials. Its
wording matches the April 26, 1965 transfer inventory verbatim,
except that items #1 and #9 have been taken off the list and the list
has been re-numbered to read #1 through #7.
October 31, 1966: When Archives personnel open the Kennedy
footlocker on the day of physical transfer, both Kennedy family reps
(Burke Marshall and Angie Novello) leave the room immediately as
soon as the footlocker is opened, and before an inventory is taken.
On this date, Archives personnel note that items # 1 and # 9 on the
original April 65 transfer inventory list are missing. Fortunately, the
Archives staff was on the ball. If they had only looked at the Burke
Marshall letter (and not compared it to the April 26, 1965 transfer
list), they would not have known anything was amiss.
1966: Inspector Thomas Kelley of the USSS writes memo of meeting
with Mr. Van Cleve of GSA which several govt officials attended, in
which they all express concern about the missing "item # 9" materials,
which include what was presumably a brain, numerous tissue slides,
the original and 7 copies of the autopsy report (the real original?),
and memos on autopsy photography.
February 1968: An inquiry by a panel of pathologists appointed by
Attorney General Ramsey Clark which examined the available
autopsy photographs and x-rays. This includes an inventory of
(information by Doug Horne)
(MY INSERTION: that inquiry ((also known as the “Ramsey Clark panel”))
only lasted for about a month, but, its results were ((deliberately)) withheld
by the U.S. government for nearly an entire year -- and were only made
publicly available ((deliberately timed!)) less than 2 weeks shortly before
the Clay Shaw trial started in 1969 for his suspected involvements in the
conspiracy to assassinate President Kennedy)
4. History of Autopsy Materials HSCA Volume VII
contained in the existing body of literature concerning the President’s
assassination and the work of the Warren Commission. The purpose is to
inventory the contentions so we can evaluate their validity. I would like the
task described above to be undertaken by a small group of lawyers within
the [Justice] Department on an unpublicized basis ...”
(RAMSEY CLARK, United States Acting Attorney General, in a once-secret
memo dated 11-25-66 ----the same date of the “LIFE magazine” issue
about the assassination entitled “A Matter of Reasonable Doubt”
---- in which CLARK laid out his plans in response to government-unwanted
and ever-increasing public criticisms about the Warren Commission report-
canard theories. This once-secret memo was obtained by KATHY
CUNNINGHAM. The memo was from RAMSEY to “Vinson, Sanders and Rogovin," dated
Nov. 25, 1966. Titled: “Warren Commission -- Re-evaluation of evidence”.
Obtained by RANDY ROBERTSON from the LYNDON BAINES JOHNSON Presidential
ADDITIONAL KEY CONSIDERATIONS FOR YOU….
President KENNEDY Medical Autopsy notes and the autopsy report generated from the notes.... The originals ---- immediately classified TOP SECRET documents ---- were admitted by President KENNEDY’s military autopsy doctor, JAMES JOSEPH HUMES (only publicly admitted to, many years later) to him taking the autopsy notes to his home, and, sometime later that weekend, in HUMES very own words, inside of his home, he personally . . . .
" destroyed by burning "
.... his personal autopsy notes written during the autopsy. Then,
HUMES burned his first draft of JFK's autopsy report. Then,
HUMES also admitted he completely re-wrote JFK’s autopsy report....
. . . . then . . . .
. . . . Also vanished within hours after JFK's autopsy were autopsy doctor PIERRE ANTOINE FINCK's autopsy notes
Here is a photo montage
of some, but not all,
of the many close medical professionals and 4 of the Dealey Plaza close witnesses who were extremely close witnesses who observed the large hole the size of an "orange or grapefruit" located at the rear of President KENNEDY's head . . . . Each witness is indicating precisely where each observed the location of that head hole.
Medical diagrams drawn and testified to for the Assassinations Records Review Board in the mid-1990’s by
some, but not all,
of the many medical professionals
who were extremely close witnesses to the
"orange or grapefruit" sized hole
at the rear of President KENNEDY's head
documented films and photos just before and
during the start of the assassination that pinpoints
each of the KENNEDY's and CONNALLY's extremely
fast head facing changes in direction. Their rapid
head facing changes in direction all started nearly
simultaneously, within 1-second, of each other.…
change reaction @ Z-155 to 158
of President KENNEDY before he was hidden
from Z-166 to Z-210 under the large oak tree from the
view of anyone, supposedly, targeting/shooting at him
from the Warren Commission-apologists, supposed, lone-nut "snipers
lair". It is, imho, much more than a coincidence that 3 of these 4 limousine
rear seats passengers (President KENNEDY, Governor CONNALLY, and Mrs. KENNEDY) all
significantly snapped their heads very quickly rightward
nearly simultaneously, within less than 1-second of
each other, between Z-155 and Z-169 ---- further
supported in their all, near simultaneously,
discontinuing very abruptly the
head facing direction they each had been
steadily moving towards. (Mrs. CONNALLY
was already in the act of turning her head
rightward when her husband and the
KENNEDY’s all rapidly snapped
their heads rightward,
. . . . or . . . .
they all were nearly simultaneously, attracted to abruptly discontinue their leftward
motions, then, they all, again, nearly simultaneously, started rapidly snapping
their heads to the right within less than 1-second of each other)
“ So I was looking to the left. I guess there was a noise, but it didn’t
seem like any different noise really, because there is so much noise,
motorcycles and things. But then suddenly Governor Connally was
yelling 'Oh, no, no, no!’ ”
" I heard these terrible noises. You know. And my husband never
made any sound. So I turned to the right. And all I remember is
seeing my husband, he had this sort of quizzical look on his face,
and his hand was up, it must have been his left hand. And just as I
turned and looked at him, I could see a piece of his skull sort of
wedge-shaped, like that, and I remember that it was flesh colored
with little ridges at the top. I remember thinking he just looked as if
he had a slight headache. And I just remember seeing that. No
blood or anything. I was trying to hold his hair on. From the front
there was nothing --- I suppose there must have been. But from
the back you could see, you know, you were trying to hold his hair
on, and his skull on. ”
" And then he sort of did this, put his hand to his forehead and fell
in my lap. And then I just remember falling on him and saying,
'Oh, no, no, no,' I mean, 'Oh, my God, they have shot my
husband.’ And 'I love you, Jack,’ I remember I was shouting. ”
" I used to think if I only had been looking to the right, I would have
seen the first shot hit him, then I could have pulled him down, and
then the second shot would not have hit him. ”
(Mrs. JACQUELINE KENNEDY, the closest witness to President KENNEDY; key segments
of her very short Warren Commission testimony, transcribed from the actual court
reporter’s original tape, and includes her statements that
the Warren Commission chose to, try, and deliberately hide
by not transcribing them)
Ramsey Clark Oral Histories in the LBJ Library
United States Senate Subcommittee of Senator Ed Long conducted a JFK assassination investigation (1968)
(not yet available online)
District Attorney of New Orleans versus C.I.A. domestic contact agent, CLAY LaVERGNE SHAW; Grand Jury and Trial Transcripts (1967-69)
“Well, what [Lyndon] Johnson did was, he did one thing before he expanded the war [in Vietnam] and that is he got rid of one way or another all the people [in the Kennedy administration] who had opposed making it an American war. Averill Harriman, he was Under Secretary of State, he made him roving ambassador for Africa so he’d have nothing to do with Vietnam.... He found out that I’d spent part of my childhood in the Philippines, and he tried to persuade me to become ambassador to the Philippines.... Johnson was a very clever man.... He knew who were the hawks and who were the doves. He systematically rid the top layers of the American government of the doves....”
(Roger Hilsman, Assistant Secretary of State for Far Eastern Affairs under President Kennedy, interviewed on CNN.com/ColdWar)
C.I.A. Inspector General C.I.A. Report on Its Plots to Assassinate Fidel Castro....
Long-suppressed and still redacted in parts, this report was thought up and created in 1967 by the
C.I.A. only after articles exposed C.I.A. plots by C.I.A.-trained teams to try to
kill Castro. This C.I.A. document was created under the direct
orders by LBJ, and was not declassified until 1994.
“If the CIA did find out what we were doing [JFK initiated secret talks via other persons toward normalizing relations with Cuba, while, at the same time, the C.I.A. was still trying to kill CASTRO], this would have trickled down to the lower echelon of activists, and Cuban exiles, and the more gung-ho CIA people who had been involved since the Bay of Pigs. .... I can understand why they would have reacted so violently. This was the end of their dreams of returning to Cuba, and they might have been impelled to take violent action. Such as assassinating the President.”
(former United States ambassador to the United Nations, William Hollingsworth Attwood, quoted
in Anthony Summers’ 2013-updated book, "Not in Your Lifetime." Attwood was selected by
President Kennedy to privately explore a rapprochement with Castro in the fall of 1963)
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